Some possible changes

[Ethereal]

I've been playing around with coding recently on our test board and I think I've assembled some cool effects. So the question is, should I copy and paste the coding to VC? I'm having a hard time identifying individual codes and what they do, so if I insert them into the site then the site would look exactly like the test forum. Basically it's take it all or nothing. We (I and the other staff members) could dig through the codes and try to find out how to accommodate your preferences after the site is revamped.

So I'd appreciate it if you could reply with your feelings on the matter. I want everyone's opinion to be heard =)

List of Changes:

• New pm bar at the top of the site
  
• Sidebars on every page
  
• 3D font effect on links
  
• Banner is on top of the boards and sidebars
  

[Caden Bunny]

I like it, so I'll click yes on this one.

[Admiral Striker General]

My answer isn't in the poll. 'x3 I say yes only to parts- namely the font effect on links, which is totally kickass (maybe with the transform-caps removed, too?), and the PM bar IF we can find a way to make it not disappear. .x. I like the nice semi-transparent bar clinging to the top of the window, but the whole hide-when-not-hovering thing is going to get an endless slew of "Where do I check my PMs?" in the chatbox. x.x It took me a good few minutes to notice it, and yah...

I don't like that long title bar with a top-centered banner though. :U And while the title bar difference may make it better for you, I recall you not liking the banner like that in general either- hence why we didn't change it a few months ago. HOWEVAR, since then I've seen a board that TOTALLY has the banner and sidebars set up like we do now but on every page, so it IS possible. 8U It's actually kept slipping my mind; lemme see if I can find it.... *much work* ... >3<; MMKAY. So SG got side tables working on all pages with the banner like VC has it currently on her own test board, but now... >__>; Yyyyeah. There are a few little tempermental issues, so I'm gonna go get some help fixing this and then see how you like eet. 83;

Anyway SG IS good at picking apart coding and getting only certain parts, so I'd be more than happy to do so however this ends up going. 83

<.< In other news, the people who voted "yes IF" really do need to specify what their if IS... 'x3

[Ethereal]

I don't know, personally my opinion has changed regarding banner placement. I'd rather have the banner above everything than in line with it.

[Admiral Striker General]

.... *FACEDESK*

'''^^;; And you couldn't have seen fit to say this in the chatbox when I told you I was working earlier instead of letting me spend all the time and effort to finish? Anyway, since I have... Could we maybe do another poll letting everyone vote on which way they'd like the banner to be? 83 Since I'm sure everyone will pretty well agree they'd like the side tables (and chatbox xP) on every page and all.

sgistesting.proboards.com/index.cgi?

[Ethereal]

Yeah I don't really care enough to try to impose my opinion. I'd rather just side with the majority on this one.

Oh I like what you've done except I'm a fan of the dropdown pm bar. It looks somewhat odd just hanging out up there the whole time.

[Admiral Striker General]

But people won't see it.. .x.; You do because you were told what to look for when you found the code. Normal members won't. The topic in which this code was posted in the resource board you found it on even says it isn't very user-friendly in its current version. 'x3;

(I learned this as it wasn't working right when I first tried, and I wondered if maybe I was missing something or taking too much in just ripping your board's source, so I looked it up. Turns out the real reason was just that it actually matters a LOT what order these codes go in; who knew? 'xD)

o3o On that note, though, I bet I could rig up a show/hide BUTTON of some kind.. There's a tool I use on my forever-WIP board BtB that has one, so I might be able to look at that or find something else if not and figure it out, if you want me to try? 83 No promises, but I MIGHT even be able to figure out how to make a show/hide button where it shows-on-hover if hidden?

[Ethereal]

The show/hide idea sounds epic. Yay for compromising!

[Puppet]

I really like SG's tester. Having the banner in line makes the side bar not longer than everything else. And having the sidebar on every page. I don't really care about the pm's so much, I hardly use them, so anything you guys do is fine in that area...

[Froggie]

I like SG's board with the side boards equal with the banner and I'd prefer for the pm bar to stay the same.

[Maid Melody]

Personally, I like the banner next to the side bars, it makes everything look neat and I second the pm bar, it should stay the same instead of having to hunt for it. New members will have to ask a LOT where the bar would be and then we would be answering the same questions over and over again and monotonous and...yeah

[MCstorms]

I personally am against any and all changes to site layout. It is a very annoying thing about myself. I absolutely hate change in any form. so my vote is no and never.

[Ethereal]

Well I think it's time we come to a final solution on this. It looks like "yes if there are changes" won out. I believe the majority of members accepted the changes of the side bars, SG's pm bar, and the new font. So SG, copy and paste your codes into a pm when you're ready~

[Admiral Striker General]

Which changes of the side bar? And you don't care about the expand/collapse of the PM bar then?

.... ;__;''' Because I actually did get that working but I simply cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong in trying to create a cookie to remember your choices, so every new page it re-expands and yeah... ;x;' SG is normally decent at looking at codes and figuring out how to tweak them even though she doesn't know how to actually create them, but cookies.... ; It is so hard Ether. D":

List exactly what you want, though, and I'll get it all up. :3 (PM seems really unnecessary given I have the power to do it myself and am the more confident of the two of us at getting this stuff set up if any changes need to be made to my test board's version before putting it up (like adding the new nav bar, apparently). ;P So yar.)

[Ethereal]

The side bars will be on every page, hun. That's the only change. The tabbed table at the top will also be on every page.

I'm very much ok with the expanding/collapsing ^_^ You don't need to worry about the cookie thing if you don't want. If you do want then take your time with it and we'll have it the way it is.

The only reason I wanted to do it myself is so that those changes could be added and some of the more useless codes we have now can be discarded (like the guest message that actually looks pretty ugly).

[Admiral Striker General]

x3 No I'm fine. I liked it fine just always-expanded. As long as you're cool with it either way I can always keep working slowly and if I can figure out how to get it to work we can add the extra option later. :3 BIG if there, but yeah. x'3


xP My code's version already took out the guest message and several codes that weren't doing anything. It also ADDED BACK a few PIECES of codes you'd accidentally removed in the past, though, the lack of which was either making them useless or just less powerful. ;P

The only thing I can think of now that isn't really doing anything is the Category/Board Edits thing, which actually DOES work... just not with our sidebars (in either form). .3. As it is, both links act as a quick shortcut to the Global Wrappers, which admittedly isn't too bad on its own. But IF you ever wanted to actually use them, catch me online sometime when it's uber slow or just us and I can take out a little snippet to make them work properly with actual options; the board would be ugly for a few minutes but I can put it right back when you're done and the changes from the options should theoretically stay. << Or if you don't really want to bother with trying that and think it makes the Admin CP too cluttered, I can remove that code. :3 But yar, I think everything else is pretty in-use. :3


So I'll throw it up, then, and if you find anything else you'd rather be removed lemme know. ^^ I'll make sure to take out it and only it. A few codes have multiple parts and one part alone could look as though it's not doing anything or run together with a different one or whatever, so just to be safe. :3 Fwee~~ ^^

[Ethereal]

Hm why doesn't the pm bar go all the way across the screen? It seems a bit short and awkward xD also the length of the welcome table becomes longer than the rest of the site when you go anywhere besides the main page. Maybe to change that we should change its width from percentage to numbers in px?

[Admiral Striker General]

I'd shortened the PM bar because on screens with large resolution, like hubby's comp here, it looks atrocious all the way across. 'x3; It was exactly the same on the test board for preview and you hadn't said anything so I assumed you were fine with it. I can change it, though. .x. ..... Would you mind if I made the black go all the way across and kept the text around where it falls now? 83

<__< And I though that was fixed... Lemme see what I can do... =3= *even added !important; to the CSS mumble grumble proboards*

[Ethereal]

Yeah it's mostly just the fact that it gets cut off. I'd be fine with just the black part continuing. The welcome table looks good now :3

[Admiral Striker General]

Compromise~ ^w^ Done.

:3 I also tweaked it just a tad to make it a little more obvious, as it IS in a pretty odd spot and there's still a chance people may not see it immediately. ^^ This should help with that, though. Iz gewd?