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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 17:31:08 GMT -5
For discussion on the anime, Fate Stay Night and all things related to it. Warning, beyond this point holds a good deal of spoilers.
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So why is Gilgamesh an archer instead of a berserker
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 17:36:51 GMT -5
xP you really should label that a FSN discussion not just full anime. Anyways, it's obvious Berserkers are more physical fighters: punchers, kickers, hitting, close combat, while Archers are more middle to long range fighters. Watch how Gillykinz throws the weapons he summons at people rather than just stabbing them in close range. Also, Berserkers are known for their lack of brains having that being taken away for sheer aggression in the very beginning of the fighting. Gilly is very calculating and thorough able to pull of tactical maneuvers with ease.
He could possibly have functioned as a Lancer given the fact that most of his weapons were thin and of the stabbing nature when he summoned them, but that is still up for debate not to mention the whole: reality marble belonging to archers, as it's seen that's how Gilly summons his weapons from.
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 17:41:46 GMT -5
I just thought beserker meant the strongest class when i think archer I think bow and arrow I guess. Also IIya had Hercules who was myth and Gilgamesh also myth so thats what posed that question. On to more important things I adore Lancer more then Archer untill further notice.
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 17:47:32 GMT -5
 King Aurthur is technically a myth too, ya silly. Epic heroes are those that lead above ordinary lives in fantasy/possible history. That's why they're summoned to the fight. x3 XD AND LOL You like Lancer more than ARCHER? How is that ... well.. ok xD I know he has that whole... yah quality about him x3 eh maybe it's just me and my odd love of white haired guys. *shrugs* .3. Also, what do you think of the whole multiple phantasm thing? It kinda threw me off at first, heh. |
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 17:52:06 GMT -5
Multiple phantasm you mean for saber?
And Lancer saved rin and archer was beeing an ashole
Also who is RIDER/Lancer I must of missed their names
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 17:58:14 GMT -5
No like... Archer's ability to remake broken phantasms. Saber only had one true phantasm when it came down to it, and that was Avalon.
=P Oh. xD I hate Rin SO MUCH. Which is probably why I overlooked that.
Also, Rider is Medusa, ya know the mythological woman with snakes for hair and eyes that turn humans to stone. That's why you never see her eyes. Lancer was uh... ah damn I forgot his exact name but he was known for his skill in Lancing and ability to kill. Something wolf-related, I wanna say.
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 18:05:00 GMT -5
Oh well I knew that archer was shrio from the begging thanks to you XP so i figured it's because he is a magician that he is able to do thatam I wrong!?
Why do you hate rin ? I mean I understand being the least likebale But hate really? I hate shinji he is an ass.
Medusa I see that makes some sense at first I thought she was some kind of spider becuase it looked like her blindfold thing at 8 eyes. And lancer is some kind of wolf related thing SAITO!
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 18:44:18 GMT -5
Eh, noble phantasms are just super!power moves that epic heroes make their signature moves, so I guess. xD; Rin is just so useless... She like fails at everything she does even when she's supposed to be more skilled than Shiro. xD;; no Lancer is not Saito. I'm pretty sure his true name was British or Irish. Ah I found it it's Cú Chulainn. xP See he's Irish<3 |
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 18:54:22 GMT -5
Rin isn't all that useless she saved shiros ass not once but twice! or was 3times either way She still saved him. And Its becuase he is a complete master at trace spells and she has spent time learning so many spells.
And screw you Lancer is saito! lD
Also so who would win Assassin or Rider? I would say rider but thats just MC X3
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 18:59:09 GMT -5
xP Rin is still useless. End of story. Also, trace spells are supposed to be SIMPLE .3. At the very beginning they're paralleled with reinforcement skills which are very simple. Tosaka's never done one when she could have, seriously xP.
XP Lancer is NOT Asian. That would make him Assassin.
o3o In a fight? Eh... I'd say Assassin if he was able to get his general surprise attackness going followed by a quick Swallow Tail. However, in brute strength, Rider'd win.
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 19:04:08 GMT -5
I see so if you could pick any servent from any hero class from any point in time who would it be? Like make your own up Mine would be Kenshin Would probally be like Alxander the great he would be awesome to fight with
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 19:10:27 GMT -5
*snort* Alexander the Great? Hm x3
I actually think I'd go with a Spartan Berserker or something of that nature. The Berserker class is so powerful<3 Though scary as heck, in some senses xP. However, if a twelve to fourteen year old girl could handle one, I think I'd be fine. Which oddly reminds me ._. it never does give Ilya's exact age which is... odd...
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 20:11:25 GMT -5
It doesn't say how old any of them are It only ever says Rin is in 11th grade so you can infer they are 16-17. I thought IIya was like 10 or 11 considering how young she acted. Spartan beserker ftw Alexander would be like saber I think.
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 20:14:15 GMT -5
Eh, I'd Ilya's at least 13 or 14 given some other circumstances that I learned outside of the anime :U. But yah. xD Saber Alex? Interesting. Actually come to think of it another one that would have been good would have been Perseus for Archer or maybe even Saber.
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 16, 2011 20:26:42 GMT -5
Perseus is Hercules half brother! I know a little of greek mythology. If they had a class that used scythes would it be called scyther? *Shot* oh oh oh what about Hermes speed has to be good for something. He would be rider right?
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Post by Jay on Jul 16, 2011 21:16:34 GMT -5
*snort* Scyther xD;; The class would probably be very limited, really. Maybe a larger weapon class lulno. Anyways, 8U Hermes eh... he doesn't really have that much force, and a noble phantasm would be hard to come by ya know?
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 17, 2011 15:36:10 GMT -5
Kamatari would be the only one in a scyther class X3. Hermes would be lacking in strength but he would make up for that with speed. And his noble phantasm would be like a super sonic attack or something.
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Post by Jay on Jul 17, 2011 15:59:47 GMT -5
FFFF I freakin' love Kamatari <<<<<<<333333
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Post by MCstorms on Jul 18, 2011 14:58:00 GMT -5
I love him too he is just awesome. So will there be anymore FSN movies. I remember you saying there were a couple of endings.
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Post by Jay on Jul 18, 2011 15:02:48 GMT -5
I'm honestly not sure if they'll make anymore =/. There are multiple endsings, one being the main one, UBW, and one called "Heaven's Feel", but I don't think they'll make HF simply becuase it's kinda... Eh... Well basically it ships Shiro andSakura from the very beginning x3;. Honestly, I like Sakura more than Rin, but she's still pretty like... bad, heh.
Ohhhh :U You know who would be a kickass servant? Joan of Arc XD *shot* ok ok ya that was bad. x3 o__o; a horrible image of a Death Note - Fate Stay Night crossover just head my head -head/desk repeatedly-
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King Aurthur is technically a myth too, ya silly. Epic heroes are those that lead above ordinary lives in fantasy/possible history. That's why they're summoned to the fight. x3 XD AND LOL You like Lancer more than ARCHER? How is that ... well.. ok xD I know he has that whole... yah quality about him x3 eh maybe it's just me and my odd love of white haired guys. *shrugs*